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Oshana: This album has been a goal of mine for years – I was always waiting for the right moment to write it

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With various outstanding releases on labels such as Partisan, Brouqade, and BodyParts, among others, Berlin-based Oshana has crafted out a distinct niche for herself in recent years and in 2020 she embraced her dedication to music by launching her own label, Psionic, releasing music consistently top-of-the-line. As an artist who was born in the United States and who also developed and polished her skills in Berlin, her music has a truly worldwide resonance. Her eclectic musical background fuels her verve for electronic experimentation in her music yet her productions and DJ sets incorporate the futuristic and warm melodic synth sounds she loves, while preserving the booming groove of her musical heritage. Having that in mind, she recently released her first full-length album, ‘Disciples of Dystopia,’ on her label, which gives a distinct perspective on the italo disco and hip-hop influences that shaped her artistic journey.

We are delighted to welcome Oshana just as her US tour is about to begin.

Hello, Oshana. We appreciate you taking the time to talk with us. We spent the afternoon listening to your freshly released debut full album, ‘Disciples of Dystopia’, and it is absolutely amazing! This LP actually welcomes a wide range of inspirations and doesn’t shy away from mixing up tempos in each of the tracks it contains. Can you tell us more about it, and how long did it take you to complete it?

Hi! It’s my pleasure and thank you! I’m very happy you like it! This album has been a goal of mine for years – I was always waiting for the right moment where I felt compelled to write it and, for me, the time came during the first lockdown. I experienced so many emotions and finally had the time and headspace to create a body of work that was fully representative of me and all the influences that I’ve had over the years. A couple of tracks were finished 1-3 years prior, but most of the album was written over 6-12 months. I also took breaks in between, which is one of the reasons why you hear a range of tempos and moods throughout the album.

What gear would you say was the most important part of the process of creating the “Disciples of Dystopia” LP?

While I used a range of gear, the two pieces that were most crucial were the Roland MC-505 and Yamaha RM1x. I used both machines to kickstart ideas and draw inspiration from.

Your own record label, Psionic, was launched last year, marking a new milestone for you. What prompted you to start the label in the first place, and what is the core idea? Do you have a favorite release or one that holds special meaning for you?

The main reason I started the label was to have a platform of my own where I could have complete artistic control as well as priority in terms of how and when my music was released. The idea was to present timeless, powerful, and cerebral music, irrespective of trends, from artists with a unique and identifiable sound. I love all the releases so far, but my favorite would be the first release as Astral Travel. It was the first official collaboration between Anthea and I, and it was particularly special because of the effect she’s had on me and my career. Her never-ending faith and encouragement have been a constant source of inspiration for me to continue pushing forward.


You are affiliated with the Paris-based record label and agency Yoyaku. What role has the label played in the development of your music and how has the association impacted you as an artist?

My relationship to Yoyaku was an important building block in elevating my profile when I decided to go pro. I learned a lot about myself and my fundamental beliefs as an artist through that connection. At the time, it opened many doors for both of us. However, the period post – Yoyaku was most instrumental in developing my music. Going solo meant that I could explore parts of myself that I had forgotten, and it allowed me to have the space and freedom to be my own artist without feeling pressured to conform to someone else’s brand image.


In a time when electronic music was booming in the 1990s and ’00s, growing up in the States certainly gives you a significant edge. How would you compare and contrast the current perspectives on electronic music and rave culture in the United States and Europe?

I agree. Growing up in the states during that time is something I’m especially grateful for. In America, it’s the limitations that gave me a particular edge, whereas, in Europe, it seems to be the opportunities.  For one, in the US, you can’t even enter a club until you’re 18 years old, 21 in most cases. In Ohio, where I’m from, bars and clubs close around 2am, which means that most of the action is happening at afterparties or illegal raves (that was especially true in the late 90’s-early 00’s). The scene was also much smaller in Ohio, which meant that promoters and DJ’s across genres of electronic music worked together to support one another. However, the other side of it, was that it was incredibly difficult to build a successful club night, which is why so much support was needed. Losing money was the norm, so it was a passion project for most people in the scene. Being restricted meant that you had to be more imaginative and creative about the parties you threw and even the music you selected. On the other hand, in Europe, it seems to be the opposite. Without age restrictions, you can start raving at a much younger age.  The industry seems bigger and, as a result, you can earn a living from touring. The other side of it is that people are spoiled for choice, here. In that way, it’s very segmented. But, in the wake of recent events, one thing they both have in common is their fragility. People from both sides of the pond are moving back towards that sense of community, like the one I experienced in Ohio, to protect the scene and everything it stands for.


I have observed that the Internet has had a significant impact on music over the past few years, with YouTube, Shazam, and Boiler Room all enabling greater access to music and Facebook and Instagram making artists’ work available to a wider audience. What are your thoughts on the Internet and social media in general as help or hinder to artists?

I’m not big on social media, to be honest. The idea of documenting my private life and having to scramble around for content seems tedious and contrary to the way I like to live my life. I also question why it should play any role in how successful an artist is. But, I do see its value helping to engage with, identify, and grow my audience. I’m also particularly grateful for the way the internet has helped us to connect with each other. When I started my career, the idea of touring in Europe and connecting with my favorite artists seemed totally out of reach-a pipe dream. I couldn’t even imagine the life I’m living now, and I will never forget that feeling. It’s humbling to think about how far we’ve progressed and how important the internet has been in accelerating people’s careers, especially mine. It wasn’t that long ago that people had to rely solely on word of mouth or writing their phone number/email address on a record just to put themselves out there.

Do you start creating music with a specific concept in mind, or do you improvise until something sticks?

In most cases, I would say the latter. But, this album was totally different. I did something I’ve never done before – I came into the studio with a theme in my head, Dystopian. The sound design, mood, and approach were heavily influenced by it. I purposely wanted to create something raw, imperfect, and full of emotion. Setting an intention before I entered the studio was an entirely new experience for me, and my ideas flowed together much faster and cohesively.


I know you had a daytime job in finance in New York before relocating to Berlin. Did you always know that music is what you wanted to do with your life, or did you have another plan? When and what was the game – changer for you that made you realize you could DJ for a living?

I’ve always known. Even when I tried to convince myself otherwise, something always pulled me back. There was never a doubt in my mind, even back in New York, that I was meant to be pursuing music. It just wasn’t as feasible because the cost of living was so high in New York. The ultimate game-changer, though, was when I started to tour more frequently. At a certain point, I was experiencing these highs being on tour, connecting with people on the other side of the world, and pursuing my real passion in life. Having to be in the office, early on a Monday morning, became more and more daunting for me. There was a huge disconnect, as I felt that I wasn’t living the life I was intended to live. So, after a string of successful releases and building up a decent amount of savings, I decided to make the move. I haven’t looked back since.


Is there a spot in Berlin that you particularly enjoy visiting?  A secret hideaway or a place where you can recharge your batteries?

That’s a tough one. I normally leave Berlin to relax, but if I can think of anywhere-probably just outside of Funkhaus. I have a studio, there, where I like to relax and sit by the water in between or before studio sessions to clear my head and focus on nature. It’s beautiful there!


What else inspires you besides music these days?

Film and art. Over the last few years, I’ve become a huge movie buff-I bought a wide-screen projector and have an even wider pool of movies to choose from, now that I’ve started working for Warner Bros. It’s a gift and a curse.


Words by Monika Zander

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‘I’m always glad to open up when I feel it’s relevant.’: Akufen Interview

By Chats to MEOKO, Interviews

There are not many artists who manage to define a particular era in music, and there are even fewer who know how to evolve beyond such achievements and find other creative paths down which to travel. We caught up with one of industries finest, Akufen, to learn more about his new EP, sampling tips and much more…

Photo credit: Petronille Gontaud-Leclair


1) Thank you for joining us today. How are you?

The pleasure is all mine and I thank you for the invite to speak. I’d like to think that I’m doing alright overall, considering the rather challenging and uncertain times we live in since last March. Although I must admit that the complete standby of performing arts events feels like an unforgiving cleaver for many artists, including myself, who made a living from touring.  It’s definitely a major game-changer, but we’re in this together and I’m hopeful that we will overcome this situation in the end.  Meanwhile, I’m taking things a day at a time, focusing on my family which keeps me grounded and helps me in embracing resilience.


2) I think it’s safe to say you are very selective with your releases and labels that you work with – how do you decide what labels are right for you?   

I wasn’t always selective, to be honest. I had my fair share of unfortunate experiences, which made me grow eventually more cautious and more selective over the years. When you’re a newcomer, it’s easy to succumb to the temptation of spreading fast by releasing on as many labels as possible. Which is understandable. But to be fair, I had more pleasant experiences as my career blossomed. Nowadays I don’t release much, but the labels I choose to release on are the ones that I feel understand where I’m coming from and where I wish to go. In the end, I just wish to collaborate with good and reliable people and feel like I’m part of something greater than just a commercial output, Perlon being the finest reference I could cite. When I met Thomas, Markus and Chris in Montreal in 2000, we became friends at first and then I had the wonderful privilege to become a part of this family of fantastic artists and very lovely human beings, which is Perlon.

3) Your new EP on Onysia Records is another fine example of your work In the studio, What did you use to produce it?

First off, collaborating with Joseph at Onysia was a true pleasure and I salute his generosity and kindness. Joseph gave me complete freedom, which is a rare thing these days when you deal with labels. What I found exciting was his sustained enthusiasm, which is very similar to mine when I started. Now, I rarely if never discuss gear, tools and tricks. I think every musician in their own right and for their own good has to figure out for themselves what works best for them. There isn’t one way to do things, and the most effective one will always be your own. We never ask kids to list the type of crayons, paint, paper and glue they used for tinkering in school. All I could suggest is, try out all sorts of stuff, never restrain your imagination, don’t think of the trends and just play around and have fun.

And I had fun recording this one.

4) Your use of samples in your work is some of the best in the game and so distinctive. Any tips for upcoming producers when working with samples and crafting their sound?

Just be attentive and listen very carefully. Wherever we are in our daily lives, sounds surround us. The most insignificant noise can become a part of something beautiful and unique. Listen to them and what they are telling you. The art of sampling is partly intuitive and partly reflexive. In the end, you’ll figure ways to connect them and hear them converse.

5) It’s not very often you do interviews and you are very much famed for letting your music do the talking – do you think the media has become too much of a focal point around electronic music and artists?

I’m always glad to open up when I feel it’s relevant. Other than that I don’t feel the obligation to unnecessarily fill the corner of a page of some DJ magazine, to sell my mug, share my tricks and brag about my lifestyle, which isn’t very glamorous. I am as selective with journalists as I am with labels, and friends. The journalists I respected over the years have become friends. There is nothing wrong with the media becoming the focal point around electronic music and its players. What’s concerning is the focal point on the glitter rather than the music itself. I just despise the star rating, following and liking culture, and journalism in general which is validating and discrediting often without discernment. You’re either in the game or out of the game. Art is too personal to give it a thumb up or down. This is straight out of the Roman Empire playbook.

6) Back in your early years you were active in the scene in Montreal under many other aliases. What made you move to your Akufen sound?

So much! An insatiable appetite for music, films and books. Years spent in art school, and most of all, a constant need for change. The idea primarily behind the Akufen sound was to work from my intuition and subconscious. It was also very much inspired by the “automatic writing” and “cut & paste” methods, which was developed by the surrealists, the beat poets and the automatists collective in Canada in the forties and fifties. These techniques have been at the centre of my creativity since as early as my childhood. I have fond memories of meticulously crafting large collages of pictures cut from magazines and working with double tape decks in my bedroom, rather than playing with other kids outside. It’s about creating an unpredictable, and unique sound environment, and a story which leaves more room for personal perception and interpretation as it unfolds. I believe that my generation was lucky as we came at a time when everything was possible, and people were ready and all ears. You could throw a Tito Puente piece in a set and the crowd would go nuts. Today, there are too many politics and laws to embrace in order to fit in. There are still some oddballs out there who amaze me, but the music sales business has made their music less accessible to the general public, sadly.

7) You’ve graced your presence at some of the world’s best clubbing institutions and have seen many changes in our industry and clubbing landscape over the years – where do you see it going from here, particularly with the current situation having such a significant impact on venues and promoters?

I could not say honestly. We are all still in shock, trying to adjust to this new reality. Options and ideas will unfold as we start healing and getting our lives back to some kind of normalcy. The pandemic has put on the back burner all public music activities and I believe it will affect not only the scene but the music itself. I have a feeling that the music will evolve in unexpected and surprising forms, and it will be interesting to see how artists will adapt and overcome this situation. I for myself, don’t want to speculate much, I am not even sure that I will pursue my career on the road. I will, however, remain active as a musician, there is no doubt about that, but I’m contemplating other avenues such as film scoring, art installations in collaboration with artists from other fields. I might as well return to visual art and graphic design which I studied in school. It’s clearly a time for radical changes, and I’m hopeful we’ll figure something out. Having said that, we must not look back in nostalgia, because things will never be as they were. Clubbing or not, music will prevail, one way or another, and that’s what’s reassuring in a way.

8) Your live show is something which has brought a lot of attention. What is your set up for this and what made you want to move into a live setup?

I’ll be bluntly honest, playing live is what puts bread on the table for most of us. I was able to feed and provide shelter for my family and send my kid to school with touring. I am overly conscient of the luck I had to be able to travel doing the greatest job. It had its flaws at times, but overall I can only be immensely grateful. I’ve always made it a priority to be as generous and available as possible for those who support me and who will sometimes travel miles to hear me. So performing is not only a way of making ends meet but also a responsibility and an act of loyalty. Night after night you have to leave the rest behind and give your best, no matter how tired or sick you may feel. We must never forget that without the record labels and club owners, the promoters, bookers, agents and the public we wouldn’t have the privilege of doing what we love most. As for my set up, there’s not much to brag about, I use a laptop, a soundcard and a couple of controllers.

9) To stay so relevant for so long takes a lot of drive and passion.  How do you push yourself to achieve your goals and keep creatively motivated?

I believe honesty and integrity were the main keys in remaining relevant, in my case. Being stubborn and uncompromising creatively comes at a high cost, but I agreed to pay that price at an early stage in my career, and I don’t regret it. I couldn’t live with myself otherwise. I rather enjoy a more modest success based on loyalty and which will last after I’m gone. What’s left of us, is what makes us immortal. Not in a glorious historical sense, but rather in a humble inspirational way, primarily for my daughter, and the generations to come. Not only as an artist but as a man of my times. No matter what you do, you got to have faith, you also got to have doubts, never take anything for granted, and be grateful for everything you got. I have to remain continuously.

Photo credit: Petronille Gontaud-Leclair


10) Where does 2021 take you? Do you have any new projects on the horizon you can tell us about?

In January, I launched “Ourway”, my new record label, introducing a first Akufen release which you can currently listen to and purchase online at Juno.  The name of the label speaks for itself. I’m aware that starting a new label is a bit of a gamble right now, but I thought it was worth giving it a shot.

I finished recording the new Horror Inc. album last year, and I am in the process of discussing its release in 2021, on “Anoma”, a Montreal based label run by my buddy Ohm Hourani.

There is also a possible 20th Anniversary re-issue of “My Way” on the new label, but it has to be confirmed. As for the new Akufen album, it’s done, but I don’t see it happening until next year.

2021 isn’t gonna take us anywhere. We will have to take 2021 somewhere. Sadly, I had to let go of my studio when the pandemic started, and everything’s been sitting in boxes since July of last year. Relocalizing is complicated for now, but I have faith that I’ll find a new place when the social restrictions soften. As for now, all music work is on hold. Stay tuned, we will return after this pandemic.


Words by Jordan Diston


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Catching up with Subb-an: from Australia to Anglesey

By Chats to MEOKO, Festival, Hot Off The Press, Interviews


One Records co-founder Subb-an has been churning out quality house music alongside Adam Shelton on their label since its inception in 2009, whilst making friends along the way through their label parties such as Cab Drivers, John Dimas, Jack Wickham and more. His recent releases on Julian Sandre’s Blind Box, which includes a classy remix from Dana Ruh, andhis debut release on Cabinet Records ‘Island Fever’ are both examples of his fine producing talent, whilst his split EP with Adam Shelton featuring ISIS SALAM on vocals, One Records’ 41ST release, is due to his stores this April. With this being said, and with festival season fast approaching, now was the perfect time to catch up with him ahead of his Australian tour.

In this interview, Michael Dowding chats to Subb-an about everything from what he is expecting in Australia, his first ever set at Sunwaves, to what he thinks about the British festival scene and who he thinks are the up-and-coming producers of tomorrow; Enjoy.


So you’re currently touring Australia. How’s the weather, how’s it been so far andwhere’s the next party?

I’m still in Berlin at the minute, I’m about to catch my flight! The first stop is Perth, then Sydney and Melbourne. But yeah, expecting it to be hot as usual,but I won’treally be able to enjoy it as most of the time I’m in, then out and then I’m off to San Francisco. Before the first time I went to Australia I actually had preconceptions of how it would be, but every time I’ve been it’s been pretty wild! The Reconstructed party on Saturday in Sydney with Cezar and the Romanians looks good, so I’m really looking forward to that and then on Monday I’m playing the afterhours at Breakfast Club.

You’ve got a big summer ahead and we’re well on the way to festival season! You’ve got Sunwavescoming up and it’s your first time playing, have you been before? And how do you think it’ll compare to playing at other festivals you’ve played at?

It’s going to be my first time at Sunwaves as I’m always busy in Europe, so it’s not always a wise move to take time out of touring really. But yeah, this is the first time at Sunwaves. Me and the Mrs and a big group of us are going to go. Seth [Troxler] asked me to play his stage, so yeah, I’m really looking forward to going away and taking some time out with a good squad and getting a bit of inspiration. From what I’ve heard about Sunwaves from friends and people going there in their twenties, you always hear stories about it when people get back, so I’m sure it’ll be amazing and I can’t wait!


Onto Sonar, you’ve got Thomas Melchior, John Dimas, Point G and more on the One Records showcase and you’re playing at Unleash x Bass Culture showwhich is also shaping up to be a great party–  over the years, do you have any really standout moments of the festival?

Yeah, I mean the first OneRecords party was a real success! I only went to the festival for the firsttime a few years ago. I caught the ChemicalBrothers and loads of others that year, it’s a great city! I always come away inspired by the art and music that Sonar provides, you know, whether it’s the Off Sonar parties or Barcelona in general.

You’re playing at Gottwood too, how do the European settings of Barcelona compare to the likes of the English countryside? Does the setting of the place bring out a different vibe?

Yeah totally, I do find that Gottwood has a very British crowd, whereas Sonar has people coming from all over, so it’s an instantly different vibe, but both good in that respect. For me you can’t beat British festivals, it’s something we are born into, and Gottwood is the epitome of that. It’s one of thosemore niche boutique festivals, and the line ups are always good, the crowd is always good, there’s no nonsense, and the setting is amazing. . .  yeah it’s brilliant you know! (laughs) and it always brings out a laryness, so you know it’s going get a bit naughty. It’s always a good time, always a good crew, and you know what you’re going get. I always look forward to Gottwood.


A little closer to home, you have just announced your free courtyard party with yourself, Adam Shelton and Bobby O’Donnell. With the calibre of this free party, do you feel it’s important to throw free parties for your followers?

Yeah totally, I think it’s a nice gesture. The majority of people work hard and spend a lot of money going to see DJs and going to parties, and not everyone has bucket loads of cash. But I think its a nice thing to throw a free party as it can be expensive. It’s a nice thing to do and it always creates a nice vibe.

You recently had Cab Drivers as party of a One Records takeover at fabric after its closure which was a huge knock for the nightlife in England. With the reopening of fabric, what do you make of the opening of Sc:ru Club in Birmingham?

From the early stages all I have seen is the line ups. Think they have a good one with Cabanne this weekend, but it’s hard to say as I’ve been living in Berlin for a few years now. In Birmingham I used to be always partying and pretty deep in what was going on, but its hard for me to say now. It’s like any city though, and Birmingham can be a tough one to crack. You need to educate people, so as long as you’re putting good artists on and taking risks, fair play!

Adam Shelton MC


You’ve had some nice releases of late on Cabinet Records, JulianSandre’s BlindBox series, and also the new one One Records with Adam Shelton getting plays from Jack Wickham at INFUSE last weekend. With such great music coming out of the One Records corner at the moment, do you have your eye on any up and coming artist at the moment that deserves some recognition for their productions skills?

Yeah, I mean, in terms of what we are talking music wise; Jack, Yamen and EDA, and Gabriels are all putting music out on One. . . They are friends but the reason they’re on the label is because they’re producing really good music and supporting. So yeah, they’re the ones to watch!

It’s going to be pretty busy for you then! Are you planning on catching some rest after the summer? What are your plans for winter, if you have any?

None as of yet, I’ve not thought that far ahead, just trying to get April out of the way!


Interview by Michael Dowding

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If you are, or have been living in London and are part of London’s long term clubbing community, then the chances are that your Facebook news feeds have been taking a nostalgic overhaul in times of recent in newly set up group ‘Remember The End’:

‘I will never forget seeing Derrick Carter play at the Classic Music Company nights. One night, after what I’m sure was a whole bottle of Patrón, he put me in a headlock at the end of his set, rubbed the top of my head with his knuckles and shouted “You’re disco inferno, baby!” Good times

And if this means nothing to you, yet you love everything about house and techno, then there is someone out there who aims to put that right, spreading knowledge of the dance music scene and doing it all with a social conscience.

We talk to the man on a mission, the person who is responsible for starting the hurdle of rave nostalgia and won’t rest until all the tales have been aired out in public. Adam Mcloughlin chats to us about how he is urging young talent to get involved, and Dig Deeper.


What is Dig Deep TV?

From a public perspective is going to be a hub for all things electronic music.  But we plan on doing things very differently to other media platforms.  Our aim is to bring something good to the table for everyone concerned.  Ultimately our main goal is education.  This comes in the form of creating work experience and development opportunities for students and graduates as well as educating music fans about the history of the genres and artists.  To date there has not been much out there for people who want to know the backstories of the people who make the music we love.  It’s all about good vibes and incredible stories that rarely get told.

What was the turning point that inspired you to start a company like this?

 I had worked for a children’s cancer charity as a marketing manager and we were donated some money by a small government funded radio station.  We went to meet them are discovered that they had been given over £75,000 in funding.  The reason being they were creating work experience opportunities for people who were long term unemployed.  I struggled to understand where the money was going.  It gave me a few ideas of my own and I had a few contacts in the music industry.  Essentially I started to think of how I could things better and what would I do?  Then my good friend Richard West AKA Mr.C became a catalyst to some pretty exciting ideas.  In typical Mr.C style he pushed things a few steps further than I had previously conceived.


A big part of Dig Deep it seems is creating opportunities for post grads and young people in general wanting to get into the creative field. Why do you think it is necessary to create a platform like this now? Do you think something like this would have had as much impact a few years ago?

 What needs to be addressed is the exploitation of young people by corporate fat cats.  The problem is this goes back much further than a few years ago.  The UK used to be the worlds greatest manufacturer and exporter of fossil fuels.  When you take those industries away you are left with trades and higher education.  But trade training has been destroyed since the days of the YTS (youth training scheme) and companies wont invest in young people like they used to.  University is more popular than ever with a decreasing employment market.  So you could spend 3 to 4 years at university only to find yourself having to spend another year on unpaid internship just to get the experience needed to move on in life.  Even then there are no guarantees.   So imagine a low income family who cannot afford to support a young person on an unpaid internship.  Imagine having to struggle for 4 or 5 years only to end up working as an unappreciated cog in a corporate machine.  Have you ever had to explain yourself to some jobs worth sad case why you have spent over 20 minuets in a month having a piss?  I have.  I have also had to be put on “absence counseling” because I was off work with a broken wrist.  “is there anything you could have done to prevent this”, said my manager.  “Yeah I suppose I could wrap myself in bubble wrap outside of working hours to ensure I am a fully functioning phone monkey for you lovely people”.  I didn’t last long there to be honest.  Nobody who invests in himself or herself should have to resort to that type of bullshit in my opinion.  And the thought of being in that position with a huge debt leads me to believe that perhaps this environment is manufactured to keep clever and ambitions people in their place.

The other element of Dig Deep is educating young electronic music fans a bit more about where the culture comes from, somewhat of a ‘raver finishing school’ before they set out into the big bad world of clubbing! Do you think this historical knowledge is something missing from the scene, which at the moment is welcoming in such a huge influx of newer, younger fans?

 For some people “the scene” is a place to wear stupid V neck t-shirts, abuse steroids and be a general burden to the rest of us.  Orange cleavages with no banter and that’s just the lads.  Our target market is the individuals who are into the music not scenesters.  I would say we were more like an open university than a finishing school only there are no qualifications for being a know it all.  There is nothing worse than a scene geek except maybe the Geordie Shore wannabes.  Obviously I have some personal dislikes to “the scene” but we all do.  People tend to either exit the scene early on or stick around and become an integral part of it.  The technology available has created a lot of overnight DJ’s and digital downloads has seen a decline in quality music.  Our aim is to take people back into the past so that they can experience some amazing quality tracks rather than everyone playing the Beatport top 100 at every after party on a midi controller.  Younger enthusiasts of house music are going to be in for a treat when they realize that the timeline of great music goes back in time as well as forward.  There is a whole universe of tracks to be discovered and a lot of respect is due to those artists.  This is where the name Digdeep comes from.  The days of hunting in records shops has seen a decline but we think that we are going to assist with the current vinyl revival.  When people discover the art of DJ’ing we hope they come to the same conclusion as us.  Djing and collecting music as product of passion and an art form, not a product of the ego and a fly by night hobby.  And for those who simply collect and appreciate good quality music we have over 3 decades for you to explore.  But its not just about the past.  Its also about the future of music because you need to know where you came from in order to have a good grasp on where you are going.

In your promo videos I can see that you have Mr C on board for your first documentary, how did this collaboration come about?

 Mr.C is from another planet.  I approached him and told him about my ideas and he got what we were about from the beginning.  The reason I approached him is because 8/10 people I spoke to about him had no idea he was the lead man out of the Shaman.  After singing the chorus from Ebenezer Goode the look the faces told me that people didn’t really know much about his past.  When I told them he pretty much created tech-house they seemed gob smacked.  It’s a testament to his career because he is always 2 steps ahead of anyone else.  I got to know Mr.C at a small festival and after that it was his ideas about life and spirituality that got my attention.  When I approached him 7 months ago and explained my idea he was on board.  When I did some more research I realized we had a documentary on our hands.  When I explained that I had never made a documentary in my life and didn’t know how to use or even own a video camera he simply said.

“Don’t worry mate, the universe will provide”.

As predicted the Universe did provide and it provided well!  Out of nowhere all the relevant and like-minded people seemed to fall into my lap and we were off.

What can we expect to see in the final product?

 Well that depends on your involvement.  On the first of October we are going to announce the details of a post-production party.  If you experience the final product at that then you can expect to see a wristband in the post and a rave line number.  You can expect to relive 1988 / 1989 by following in the footsteps of the first ravers ever.  When you get to the secret venue you can expect to see lots of smiling faces enjoying the final product on a huge screen followed by a giant party featuring some of the most important artists from the past present and future.  If you experience the documentary from home you will see an raw and no holds bard documentary that exposes the full truth of those times and Mr.C as an important character of those times.  You have to remember that this is being broadcast on the internet and we have nobody to answer to.  There are some gritty and dark moments and there are some pretty hilarious stories to be told.  The plot keeps thickening as the days go by so at this moment even I don’t know!  But what I do know is that people who see the finished documentary will witness the post production party and wish they were there.  Its looking pretty special J

I also see you’ve set up a Facebook group ‘Remembering The End’ what has been the response to this so far?

The End club was a place that I was never fortunate enough to experience so I set the group as a research tool for the documentary.  I added an employee of Superfreq and a former employee of the End Paul McCormack to the group.  2 days and over 1000 requests later the group was buzzing with activity.  People posted pictures and memories that to be honest got be a bit emotional.   We felt the vibe from the place when we met Richard there and it all made sense when we witnessed the love of the venue and the love that those people shared for each other.

Can you tell us who else you have in the pipeline or do we have to wait and see?

At the moment all I can say is we have contacted the obvious characters and they are on board with the concept of  When you do things from the heart and not the pocket you find that people want to help.

Your promo video also mentions a campaign to go along with the launch of the first documentary. Tell us more about this please! 

The documentary could have been funded by government funding however we may have been restricted by what we could and could not say.  So we decided to fund the documentary with crowd funding.  This means that people who attend the post production party will be funding it as well as a few sponsors.  The campaign we are running through our Facebook page started as a way to let people know about what is in the pipeline so that fans got first refusal to the party.  The places are obviously limited so we wanted those place to go to fans and not scenesters.  On the 1st of October there will be a short video and a link to a place where you can buy tickets or order limited edition versions of the documentary, which will be much longer than the online version we release.  We created an event to alert people a day before a network of international DJ’s tells the world so they can get in first.  We expected a good response but what we did not expect was the response from the USA.  We ended up having to cater for both New York and Los Angelies with post production parties.  We currently have some amazing artists and a film festival manager working on that for us.  After all of this hard work I should be able to treat my team to a well deserved holiday if all goes well!


What do you have planned for the post production event?

 Only the post production party attendees will know that.  We a few different locations catering to the response levels.  The more people that come the bigger and better the experience will be.  Even at the bottom end its going to be special and unique.

What are you hoping to achieve with Dig Deep and where are your future plans headed?

 It has been like a game of chess.  We have several goals and several ways to achieve it with some of the music industries most respected individuals taking part.  In order our priorities are

Create careers for people who deserve them

Give artists the credit they deserve

Improve the quality of electronic music through education

Help undiscovered artists to develop and create more opportunity

Turn the corporate world upside-down

Finally, what tune first inspired you to Dig Deep into the world of house and techno?

When I was younger it was about glow-sticks and pulling funny faces in chill-out rooms listening to hard house.  They I grew up.  The first house track that sorted my head out was Derrick Carter “where you at”.  That’s a good question and the lyrics seem to ring true with where I am at now.

The world has changed, or is it me that’s new?
A different set of morals from a different set of clues
So still I wonder, is this all there is to life?
The ever changing cycles, of a world that’s damp and ripe

There must more, yeah in my heart I hold to this
I’ve known the joy of love and I’ve seen the peace and bliss
But as you know, all things must end, except the need for faith
And the spirit that’s within to keep you strong

When it seems you’re ’bout to break
Just call upon the strength within and plant it as your stake

Move forward with power, program yourself to feel
With depth enough to know what’s up and heart to sense the real

Where you at?

In a world that’s changing for the worse you have to call upon the strength within.   You need to dig deep if you want to climb high.

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Interview by Eileen Pegg



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An Open Letter to: That Guy Who Can’t Take a Hint

By Chats to MEOKO, Hot Off The Press, News, Open Letters


Dear Guy who can’t take a hint, 

First off, an invitation to talk to me is not an invitation to put your arm around my waist. I didn’t come to this club to get with someone, I came for the music. I certainly didn’t wear these clothes to get you to stare at me, but let’s face it; it can get really hot in here especially if you’re dancing. Now I’m not saying the male species is the only one that goes after the opposite sex in a club since inevitably you will find your average drug thirsty chick who in during her quest for chemical substances may do anything with a guy to get what she wants.

However, putting aside any confusion of this being a feminist rant, I’m afraid you males are in the majority of this phenomenon. And by phenomenon, I mean the ever persisting conversation you make a girl go through until you finally end up realising you have been rejected. Yes, occasionally some chats in the smoking area are a healthy form of socialising, but what about when those chats start getting out of hand?


There’s several excuses and ways one can use to get out of such a situation that’s for sure, but why does there have to be a situation to begin with? I just want to bloody dance and enjoy my night out with my friends damn it. I don’t need to pretend I have a boyfriend (classic excuse) and I don’t need to pretend I’m crazy like that video by Jenna Marbles.


It’s all fine and dandy when you’re talking with someone at first, unless he seems like a creep in that case he has already tried to touch you. Ah, that hand around the waist. Especially when you didn’t even get to look at the guys face but he’s been staring at your ass the whole night until he decided to act with actions rather than words. Well guess what, both options won’t get you any pal. In the words of MC Hammer, you simply can’t touch this. Can’t. Touch. This.

So mate, I shouldn’t even need to tell you I’m not interested, you should read it in my eyes when I turn to my friends whenever you get annoying, and if you don’t get that, maybe you should understand the phrase ”not interested” and take it for what it is. I’m pretty sure you’re just going to try the same thing on the next girl anyway, so why get upset about it?


And as for the ladies who like to do the equivalent to men, maybe you should either get your own drugs and leave the nice guys alone, or better yet, try going after those who seem to like this kind of shit and leave the rest of us to dance worry-free.

Yours sincerely,

Every human being who prefers dancing to having a creep waste their night.

Written by: Thalia Agroti 


Ralph Lawson: A Roller Coaster Ride

By Chats to MEOKO, Hot Off The Press, Interviews


Having played a pioneering role in electronic underground music for the past two decades, we feel very privileged to be interviewing Ralph Lawson. Apart from being a hero on our Island, he is also widely regarded as the crème de la crème in this industry. Ralph Lawson currently holds residencies at Back To Basics in Leeds, We Love Space in Ibiza and Barcelona’s The Loft as well as regular appearances at Berlin’s Watergate and London’s Fabric. Ahead of his recent showcase at the EGG this weekend, MEOKO chats with him about the highs of his musical career. 

Ralph, what is it like being a resident at Back to Basics for years now? 

Well it’s been a roller coaster ride, blood sweat and tears and it’s been a very long journey that strangely seems so short in a lot of ways. So much time has past and suddenly we’re 20+ years down the line and Back to Basics in Leeds is still going strong I’m really proud and happy to have been a part of it. It’s like being in The Rolling Stones dealing with Dave Beers, it’s kind of like dealing with Keith Richards as your cohort. It’s always interesting and I’ll always have stories from this time, we’ve had some ups, we’ve had some downs but we’re still here.

Do you find that there is a difference in the House scene in London with the scene in Leeds and hence do you consider that the scene in Leeds is still as strong as it was to begin with?

There’s definitely a difference for sure. I don’t think Back to Basics would have worked for as long in London as the scene move so much quicker everyone wants new things and as quickly as they can get them. It’s very fashion driven and there’s a need for everything to change so quickly. Back to Basics in Leeds is much more like a working men’s club everyone shares the same interests, it’s a place for people to go to week in week out. London is exciting it kickstarts a lot of scenes for the rest of the country and I love playing there. The crowds a bigger mix and much more cosmopolitan so you have to read the room slightly differently.

How did your interest in Djing in particular begin and what were the influences that directed you to that path? 

I was drumming and in bands and I went over to Manchester around the time of Happy Monday’s and The Stone Roses and that kind of led to Hacienda and the Manchester scene. It was a real intro into acid house which we then bought back to Leeds which inspired Back to Basics.

When playing live, do you favour using vinyls or MP3s or is it a mixture of the two?

I never play MP3’s, I’ll play Wavs, Aiffs or high quality digital files if I’m going to play them. I try to give the audience the best music quality possible. I love playing vinyl to as it’s got a nice organic sound I like to mix it up and play both where possible.

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What makes you decide on playing a particular record during one of your sets? Is there a criteria other than pure subjectivity, for selecting what to play next?

I just think it’s got to have a certain feeling  techno, electronic, house, soulful it needs to grab you in a certain way and standout.

How important is it for you to achieve a desirable response out of the crowd you are playing for? Do you believe in the possibility of “reading an audience” and how do you put this into practise?

At the end of the day I’m a massive believer in people as a DJ you can be so up your own arse. but it’s not about just you particularly. It’s about the night and the crowd and the party and what you can contribute to that. People have paid money to be there so even if you’re tired or you’ve got a cold you’ve got a responsibility, you’re getting paid, you’re the guy behind the decks who needs to get people dancing, enjoying themselves and creating the atmosphere. I feel like I’ve left myself down and the crowd down if I don’t achieve that which I normally do.

When in London, what type or which venue in particular do you enjoy playing at the most?

Fabrics the number one isn’t it? It’s the real benchmark for what an electronic venue should be it’s so so important. It’s since spawned this amazing warehouse scene.

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Do you feel that a crowd is actually able to appreciate the intricacies of complex DJing, if they don’t actually know what is happening behind the decks?

I actually think people are super clued up now about DJing, a lot of people have had a go. DJing is intricate but in some ways it’s very basic you’re putting on records whether its on digital or vinyl format and you’re mixing between the two. Even if people don’t know what skill is going down, most will appreciate how the music is being presented to the them. DJ’s work on so many different levels some people know the exact level skill that is going on and will be impressed by their technique whereas other will just appreciate that the music is flowing nicely and that it’s making them dance in the club.

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Between Djing and producing your own music, what is it that interests you the most and why?

I’m a DJ first and foremost; I never saw myself as some big producer, I like working with bands and producers, I like remixing and learning.
I realized I’d learnt more than I thought by hanging out in the studios with these great people and bands. I decided to make my mark later on than most people and I’m really interested and enjoying producing at the moment.

When producing, is there anything specific that you aim for or do you usually follow your intuition as you go along?

I just really want to make the best track possible.

Lastly, other than 2020 Vision, are there any labels which you are really fond of?

Yes, I like a lot of the classic labels that were there when I first started they might not even be around now. As far as modern labels there are some really cool ones; Running Back, Hyper Colour, Barnhouse, that Axel Boman release is really good there are so many.

Ralph is playing at EGG on the 19th of April for Mobilee Back To Back Tour alongside Ray Okpara, Rodriguez Jr, Ejeca and Ranacat.

More information about the event and tickets CLICK HERE

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ARM wrestling with Red D

By Chats to MEOKO, Festival, Hot Off The Press, Interviews, MEOKO Exclusive

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MEOKO chats wit Red D about We Play House Recordings and FCL + Exclusive Mix.

Red D is the seasoned veteran who has been playing house music in its broadest sense all over Belgium and beyond since the early 90’s. He started the label ‘We Play House Recordings’ in 2008 as an outlet for the music of San Soda, a friend he met through football in his hometown located in Belgium. The label soon reached a great recognition in the European House scene, as more artist started to get involved with WPH Recordings. It was only logical that Red D and San Soda ended up in the studio together and started the tandem FCL, named after the local football club they’ve both played at. FCL have been playing their vinyl trade together or separately as Red D and San Soda all over Europe and beyond in the last two years. A true Belgian legend with a voluminous knowledge about music and the industry.

Well, no further introduction needed. First of all let us thank you for the time to have a little chat with us. When you think back about last summer, what has excited you the most?

That’s a very open question 🙂 Last summer has been the busiest yet, especially because there was a lot of travelling going on. In Belgium I’ve been used to playing multiple gigs per weekend for years, but doing three gigs in three different countries in one weekend was fairly rare before 2013, and with the summer festivals adding to that I was kind of curious to see how I would handle that. And I have to say I really enjoy the hectic aspect of all that, although I have no idea if I’ll tell you the same next year… Other than that it’s those quiet moments in between gigs that I cherish the most. Looking for a late night snack in some remote village in the Netherlands on a warm summer night all by myself…and actually finding some Turkish place that was really good 🙂 Musically speaking there were so many great moments, but again most of the Dutch gigs are always among the best ones.

San Soda and you became acquaintances of each other through football. Nowadays your both busy with turn tabling, producing and with the label, do you still have time to meet up?

Well, with all the FCL gigs going on I think we’ve spent more time together on the road and playing than we did when San Soda was still living in Belgium. Of course to do music together we need to arrange it differently, but we don’t release record after record, so that all goes pretty smoothly. For anything we do we usually spend one afternoon together in the studio and then work on it separately, so no real distance problem there.


So, no time to kick some ball together? 

No, and that’s his loss and well as the team’s. His loss because his stamina is disastrous by now (he’ll beg to differ :-p), our loss because he really is a great player. I myself am always happy to move my flights and stuff about so I can still attend the games. Way too much fun to miss out!

You’ve started WPH Recordings as an outlet for his music. Do you therefore see yourself as his mentor? How did you help Nicolas becoming the respectable DJ he is today?

Mentor is too serious and too big a word. From the first moment we met I was happy to share all the musical knowledge I had with him, both the creative side as the business side. With every young artist on the label I give them advice when they ask for it, and I give my candid opinion on everything, but in the end it’s them that decide what they do. I myself always loathed older guys waving their finger in my face like a school teacher, so I try and not do that myself. In the process I probably was/am some kind of mentor, but I just try to get people to get the most out of their talent by sharing what I know. San Soda will of course always be a special case, because us meeting each other is the very reason why we are doing what we are doing. I wouldn’t be speaking to you without him, and maybe you wouldn’t be asking about him without me, although I’m a firm believer that if you have talent and are working your ass off, you will end up achieving something.

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Do you think it is more difficult for young and talented Belgian producers to make a bust into the international industry in comparison with producers from the UK or other leading countries?

I don’t think so, I know so 🙂 But it’s not a black and white story. You can breakthrough really quickly as a Belgian artist too, but then you need to be on a big UK or other leading country label. I’ve been more than happy however that being from Belgium and doing the label from Belgium as well has allowed us to slowly grow and develop a solid fan base of music lovers who do not really care about hypes or trends. But I honestly have felt that for example San Soda and also WPH as a label haven’t gotten the attention they deserved in the first years. I’ve seen labels and artists from New York or Berlin or any other ‘credible’ city or crew who’ve done two or three releases and who are already doing tours and being hailed as the freshest thing on the block, quoting 1000 euro+ DJ fees and the works. If they get it and prove to be worth it later on, kudos to that of course, but to me it’s not how it should be. But it’s like when kicking a ball at 18 years old and being good at it: when Chelsea or PSG come knocking with a fistful of dollars…who can say no right? So to answer your question: yes, it’s more difficult, but also more rewarding when it does happen. I stay away from patriotism as far as I can, but I can’t help but liking the fact that I/we are Belgian and as such kind of exotic 😉   

Where did your love for electronic music sprouted from? And who has been your mentor when you started out?

I have no idea really. My parents didn’t have a record collection and never pointed me in any musical direction. My two uncles were Bob Dylan fanatics, and I hated that. At home it was more talk radio than something else, but for some reason electronic and black music was always better to my ear than anything white and rock or pop based. I recently heard one of my oldest radio tapes from around 1986 and almost all the tracks on there were already electronic or synth pop. And when I discovered both Public Enemy/hiphop and new beat in the same year (1987) there was no more turning back 🙂 Coming from a rural town my enthusiasm and endless searching for ‘my’ music are the mentors that got me where I am today.

I do believe you don’t agree on the fact there are arising different subgenres within House music. There is simply house music, good or bad. What is your opinion on these emerging trends and hypes?

I should even say that there’s just music, good or bad. But for lack of a better description I simply play house, even when it’s not… Hence the name of my  label: ‘We Play House Recordings’. Subgenres have only been invented by press and pigeon-holing people. Much to my own joy, whenever something is called some kind of sub-genre…I usually don’t like it. 99% of everything ever put in the tech-house/deep house category on *insert portal name here* should never have seen the light of day imo.

You’ve launched the series ‘Our Beat Is Still New’, in which producers of now pay tribute to the legendary Belgian 80ies new beat sounds. I don’t believe the new beat sound is very familiar with the younger generation these days? How comes?

Because as usual Belgium never truly promoted and exported their sound. People that have been ‘at it’ for years know about new beat, but it never really made it out to the world as a movement, so how could people know? Also when Belgium’s producers moved on and created the ‘hoover’ rave sound they wanted to steer clear of any attachment to new beat, so they specifically didn’t promote their background. That’s the big difference with for example Chicago house, because there any second or third generation was happy to quote their influences.


How’d you come upon the idea to resuscitate this sound?

Well, because I still love the original new beat sounds, and because I felt that Belgium should start being a bit proud of its heritage. Without knowing each other, at the same time where I had my idea, some other Belgians were making a documentary on Belgium’s rich dance music history (The Sound Of Belgium), so now finally it seems we are coming to the world and telling people: “This is us you know!” 🙂

What can we expect of these takes?

What I certainly didn’t want to do was release a compilation with older tracks + remixes. That’s a bit lame and I see it everywhere. Let the past tracks be the past, but do get inspired by them! Hence the idea to ask a bunch of my favourite producers of now to make a new track inspired by new beat. Some of them knew about the sound, others had never heard of it. And that’s exactly what made the compilation special to me, a perfect mixture of new and old. People like myself who lived new beat simply made a track that could have been made 25 years ago, others made something utterly fresh. It also sums up WPH for me: use the old to make the new. No throwback like we’ve been bombarded with these last years. I don’t want to hear a ‘Jersey house chord’ that sounds like 20 years ago, I want to hear what a Jersey chord sounds like now.

2013 is proving to be the busiest year for WPH and FCL yet, with the success of ‘Its you’ and multiple other releases. What do you expect for 2014?

We’ll just keep doing what we are doing and we’ll see where we end up. There is no grand scheme in anything, apart from doing and releasing the music that I like.

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You’ve composed a two-hour mix for us, how will you best describe the sound you’ve put together?

I’ve actually made a mix lasting 3,5 hours. I had three different podcast requests so I spent a full Monday afternoon behind my decks and made a mix that should give people a perfect impression of what it could sound like if I/we get to play a club night from start to finish. Building it from an empty room, welcoming people with slow stuff that’s perfect for lower volume and doesn’t demand dancing (although that can of course happen), moving to more housier territory and then building to rougher house and techno, only to end of more end of the night type of tracks. Part 1 is to be found here, parts 2 and 3 can be found through the other podcasts. Just like when digging for vinyl, now readers and listeners should do some searching for the rest of the mix. For the record, I called the mix ‘Monday Clubbing’.

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Words by Paul Fluks